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On the first page, (first link not working, try going into callys for it), item numbered '2' it reads: "As we discussed yesterday on the phone permit me to forward some information that may be assistance in your investigation." (This is dated 11th May and addressed to Mike Allen, so it is obviously Mike Allen who had the discussion over the phone, the day prior which would have therefore been the 10th of May).



If you read the very end of the letter (second link is working), it reads: " If i can assist further please call me today at 2.30 pm New York time. If i can view the crime scene photo's I can perhaps pick clues. I can also arrange training on the occult and cult groups for your investigators or police officers. Do not hesitate for further assistance. I hope to hear from you today."



It certainly seems that contact was made due to the belief that it was an occult/cult related homicide, as at the date of phone conversation 10th May, instigated by Mike Allen! Perhaps these were faxed, but the actual 'header page' is missing? I say this because, there is a fax header page dated the 12th May, providing additional information, also from Marcos Quinones..... The brief letter mentions "a new deity in the Voodoo Religion", and "this case may illustrate similar factors in your unfortunate case with the three boys."

http://www.callahan.8k.com/images2/witchcraft/may12_fax_sheet.jpg

http://callahan.8k.com/images2/witchcraft/m_quinones_letter_article_01.jpg (Brief letter again addressed to Mike Allen)

(Newspaper Article that was faxed)

http://www.callahan.8k.com/images2/witchcraft/m_quinones_letter_article_02.jpg

There is absolutely nothing similar nor did it have any similar factors at all, to the Newspaper Article's details! WTF?




As far as i have read and what i know about Damien, Jason and Jessie, they didn't 'follow any African Voodoo Deity named IXU!'

Remember, by May 7th, the day after the children had been discovered, it had already been determined the murders had overtones of a cult sacrifice.


On the day after the bodies of the three boys were found I had a conversation with Steve Jones, a Juvenile Officer for Crittenden County, Arkansas. In our conversation I found that Steve and I shared the same opinion that the murders appeared to have overtones of a cult sacrifice.

During our conversation Steve mentioned that of all the people known by him to be involved in cult type activities one person stood out in his mind, that in his opinion, was capable of being involved in this type of crime. That person was Damien Echols. Steve stated that Damien lived at 2706 South Grove in Broadway Trailer park in West Memphis, Arkansas. On this day, the day after the bodies were found, I asked Steve if he would meet me at Damien's residence in order to interview Damien.

In fact the day after the bodies were discovered I went to 2706 South Grove and meet with Steve Jones whereas we talked to Pamela and Eddie Hutcheson the mother and step-father of Damien. Neither Pamela or Eddie objected to our talking to Damien. On this day, with Pamela and Eddie's permission, we talked to Damien in his bed room and on this day I took a Polaroid of Damien Echols. At this time I observed Damien to have a tattoo on his chest of a five pointed star or pentagram and as best I remember one other tattoo on his shoulder or arm. I am unsure of the nature of this tattoo.

[signed] Lt. James Sudbury.

Thanks Wolfie for the info validating my point.



I have absolutely no idea WHAT information Jones had (as he didn't provide any evidence, neither could Driver substantiate what he was telling people) that convinced him, it was Satanic/Occult/Cult related, at all!

If we all look at the other thread that Wolf started, not even any of the graffiti photos taken could be referred to as a 'sign'!


Looks to me it was certainly someone trying to make it into 'something' that it wasn't, and already having chosen who the 'weired one' was, to have had some involvement ie: Damien has finally killed someone comment by Jones! Add to that crap the issue with Driver claiming he had been told by 'informants' that turned out to be teens that Damien had gone to school with that felt him 'strange', giving pertinent information abut Satan and Damien's worship of him blah blah blah, couldn't provide the names of these children to the interviewing Officer, and, upon the coincidental questioning of some of them by chance, actually contradicted what Driver had been alleging as being told, and denial of telling Driver anything of the sort, took place.

This being so, there is absolutely NO logical reasoning behind the energy put into making this any Satan/Cult/Occult/Demon/BlackWitchcraft sacrificial ceremony, whatsoever! Even more so, am i surprised that Fogelman chose to ignore the F.B.I. very clear instructions NOT to pursue the motive as being that.

I know there are those that say that 'witchcraft' etc did NOT cause Damien to be found 'guilty', but i really do disagree.....

There was so much damn focus on Religion, instead of following the trail, it really harmed anything the defense tried.... I guess the defense was of the opinion logic would prevail, but it didn't as the damage had already been done by the Media, the Investigators, the Police Involved, and Rumors within a 'religious community' (in spite of what they were actually doing in their private and personal lives that went against any of the actual teachings in their own bibles/the Lords words), it had already tainted the Jury that badly that they weren't unbiased what so ever! The Families of these poor children were led by the nose into believing this to be fact and the truth, and because so 'much' faith had been placed on 'trust' of the Police the Investigators and the Prosecution, Lambs were led to their eventual bloody slaughter, and not on any actual scientific evidence or fact, but that of circumstantial crap made to fit the 'shape' of what had been 'formed'!

Griffith suited the Prosecution, as he was saying any and everything that fueled the 'shape' the Prosecution had spewed out to the public... The Prosecution played right into the fears of protective parents and scared parents and Community. In spite of even back then, thinking what Griffis was testifying to, was the most stupidest and unfounded, confused and manipulated crock of 'a bit of any and everything thrown into the pot' ( even 8 being a witches number what in the hell did 8 have to do with the children, the scene, Jessie, Jason or Damien), the bloke is a complete idiot period!

Sadly he wasn't seen thru, and neither was the Prosecutions 'motivation for the murders' and neither was the Media frenzies focusing on Ritualistic Witchcraft child killings!

Considering Griffis himself tells of having thing in HIS home that have been taken from evidence rooms, stuff he has collected he felt was 'interesting' and read mucha bout Cult/Occult Religions etc... it actually makes Griffis more probable of being an actual Voodoo Priest, or a Black Witchcraft follower and believer, than that of bloody Jason, Jessie and Damien.... Even Driver followed the voodoo traditions and has such interest, and at the same time flying in and out of Haiti (which is common knowledge for such things and practices), that even Driver was more of a believer and a foloower of such things that those convicted were accussed of actually being and believing, and practicing in....

ha all i can say is i don't know but... WOW!